“Bonfire: American Sociocide, Broken Relations, & the Quest for Democracy” with Charles Derber

Coming From Left Field podcast published June 26, 2025

Warm Greetings All,

In this episode, we dive deep into America's social crisis with sociologist Charlie Derber, author of “Bonfire of America: Sociocide, Broken Relationships, and the Quest for Democracy.”

This is the third time we have hosted Charlie, a prolific sociologist from Boston College who has published 27 books in his field. Every time we have a discussion with Charlie, I am disappointed when the conversation ends, as his insights are always revelatory.

The episode focuses on the concept of "sociocide,” the deliberate or systemic destruction of a society’s structures, institutions, and collective identity, and how it applies to contemporary America.

Key Points from the Discussion:

1. Defining Sociocide

• Charlie explains that sociocide stems from the breakdown of social relationships, leading to a "loveless society" where people prioritize survival over community.

• He compares modern America to the Ik tribe in Uganda (studied by anthropologist Colin Turnbull), where extreme individualism eroded social bonds.

2. Root Causes of Sociocide in the U.S.

• Economic Inequality & Neoliberalism: Since Reagan, market-driven individualism has replaced collective welfare, worsening social fragmentation.

• Decline of Social Capital: Working-class communities face "civic deserts" with few public spaces, weak unions, and eroded trust.

• Technology & Social Media: Platforms like TikTok create the illusion of connection but deepen isolation, especially among youth.

3. Political Polarization & Trumpism

• Charlie argues that Trumpism is not an anomaly but a continuation of America’s oligarchic, anti-democratic tendencies.

• The Democratic Party’s shift from class solidarity to identity politics has alienated working-class voters, fueling right-wing populism.

4. Historical Context

• Greg and Charlie agree that America has always had authoritarian undercurrents, but today’s economic precarity (e.g., 62% living paycheck-to-paycheck) and social dislocation amplify the crisis.

5. Resistance & Hope

• Charlie warns against nostalgia for the "pre-Trump normal," urging systemic change rather than mere restoration.

• Grassroots movements (e.g., labor organizing, progressive campaigns like AOC’s) offer hope, but overcoming oligarchy requires deeper structural reforms.

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The conversation underscores that sociocide is both a symptom and accelerator of America’s crises. While our conversation acknowledges grim realities, Charlie is optimistic, noting we have the potential for collective action to rebuild social bonds and democracy. We have a path forward if we reject nostalgia and fight for systemic change.

Peace,

Pat